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	<title>Comments on: MCSE vs MCITP: Is the MCSE Still Worth It?</title>
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		<title>By: Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy you are all over it that was exactly my take on it what I am currently doing:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy you are all over it that was exactly my take on it what I am currently doing:</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy needle</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy needle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>====Ganesh


Why not split the difference? Get MCSA 2003, then MCTS for 2008 Active Directory and 2008 Network Infrastructure. 

For the MCSA elective your best bet is probably 70-236, Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 as this will ALSO give you a 4th MCTS for Exchange 2007. 

And for the client take 70-680, and this will give you a 5th MCTS: Windows 7, Configuring

The end result, you pass 6 exams and get 5 certifications. Hows that for playing the resume/certification game? *bemused chuckle*

Exams Taken
70-680
70-290
70-291
70-640
70-642
70-236

Certifications Earned

MCTS: Windows 7, Configuring
MCSA: 2003
MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory, Configuring
MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure Configuration
MCTS: Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 - Configuration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>====Ganesh</p>
<p>Why not split the difference? Get MCSA 2003, then MCTS for 2008 Active Directory and 2008 Network Infrastructure. </p>
<p>For the MCSA elective your best bet is probably 70-236, Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 as this will ALSO give you a 4th MCTS for Exchange 2007. </p>
<p>And for the client take 70-680, and this will give you a 5th MCTS: Windows 7, Configuring</p>
<p>The end result, you pass 6 exams and get 5 certifications. Hows that for playing the resume/certification game? *bemused chuckle*</p>
<p>Exams Taken<br />
70-680<br />
70-290<br />
70-291<br />
70-640<br />
70-642<br />
70-236</p>
<p>Certifications Earned</p>
<p>MCTS: Windows 7, Configuring<br />
MCSA: 2003<br />
MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory, Configuring<br />
MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure Configuration<br />
MCTS: Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 &#8211; Configuration</p>
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		<title>By: Ganesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ganesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post but still I am not able to come for a conclusion. MCSE or MCITP?? Actually I need to start from scratch, plz tell which one I can opt for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post but still I am not able to come for a conclusion. MCSE or MCITP?? Actually I need to start from scratch, plz tell which one I can opt for?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice post. I am about to start my MCITP but it was a very tough decision on whether to take MCSE or go the MCITP way. I believe a lot of companies arestill using Server 2003 and will continue doing so for quite sometime. Currently where I am working, we are using Server 2008 and that was one of the reasons why I decided to go for MCITP Server Admin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice post. I am about to start my MCITP but it was a very tough decision on whether to take MCSE or go the MCITP way. I believe a lot of companies arestill using Server 2003 and will continue doing so for quite sometime. Currently where I am working, we are using Server 2008 and that was one of the reasons why I decided to go for MCITP Server Admin.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice post.

i&#039;ve gotten 4 of the MCITP: DA:EA:SA:EPM

i still have both MCSE /MCSA 2003 as well so i would recommend getting both certifications as it will be better later on.

any way Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice post.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve gotten 4 of the MCITP: DA:EA:SA:EPM</p>
<p>i still have both MCSE /MCSA 2003 as well so i would recommend getting both certifications as it will be better later on.</p>
<p>any way Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years i always said i would do my MCSE, as i always percieved it to be the gold standard of  knowledge within the server field, which i always dreamed about. New versions of server came out, i would start reading up on it, and then the lack of motivation/laziness stuck, as i always found it too boring, despite having some decent books, decent systems etc, but never actually sat any exams. 

Ive started doing MCITP SA, and have passed the 70-642, and now doing the 70-640. I recognise i am lazy, and hate redoing stuff. EG to do the MCSE from scratch, then yet another set of upgrade exams, at another few months studying to change to the MCITP, when i could have had this from the outset, isnt my idea of fun. I also figure that Server 2008 is on SP2, and it came out in feb 2008, how ready does it have to be before it becomes the default?. 

While it is hard going and i am missing much free time etc, this is nothing compared with the amount that I HATE my current job, and its prospects, (despite it being for a large texan computer supplier), which is what gives me the motivation to do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years i always said i would do my MCSE, as i always percieved it to be the gold standard of  knowledge within the server field, which i always dreamed about. New versions of server came out, i would start reading up on it, and then the lack of motivation/laziness stuck, as i always found it too boring, despite having some decent books, decent systems etc, but never actually sat any exams. </p>
<p>Ive started doing MCITP SA, and have passed the 70-642, and now doing the 70-640. I recognise i am lazy, and hate redoing stuff. EG to do the MCSE from scratch, then yet another set of upgrade exams, at another few months studying to change to the MCITP, when i could have had this from the outset, isnt my idea of fun. I also figure that Server 2008 is on SP2, and it came out in feb 2008, how ready does it have to be before it becomes the default?. </p>
<p>While it is hard going and i am missing much free time etc, this is nothing compared with the amount that I HATE my current job, and its prospects, (despite it being for a large texan computer supplier), which is what gives me the motivation to do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: sheriff</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys... i learn the complete coverage about MCSE OR MCSTP... with this coverage one thing i got cleared... i m right now looking for system admincertification... but not yet started any thing so far.. SO IT IS GOOD TO procced WITH MCITP ????????? AM I RIGHT guys???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys&#8230; i learn the complete coverage about MCSE OR MCSTP&#8230; with this coverage one thing i got cleared&#8230; i m right now looking for system admincertification&#8230; but not yet started any thing so far.. SO IT IS GOOD TO procced WITH MCITP ????????? AM I RIGHT guys???????</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people who have some knowledge about MS certs will probably ask you &quot;MCITP? What&#039;s that?&quot; and scratch their heads when you tell them that you are an MCITP-Enterprise Admin. The 4 letters that still get people&#039;s attention are &quot;M-C-S-E&quot;. Let&#039;s face it, MCSE has been around since the NT4 days. The ITP is really just a johnny come lately on the IT scene.  The MCSE is still more worth it than the ITP stuff nowadays.

Personally, I did both programs -- the MCITP is a breeze once you pass the MCSE stuff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people who have some knowledge about MS certs will probably ask you &#8220;MCITP? What&#8217;s that?&#8221; and scratch their heads when you tell them that you are an MCITP-Enterprise Admin. The 4 letters that still get people&#8217;s attention are &#8220;M-C-S-E&#8221;. Let&#8217;s face it, MCSE has been around since the NT4 days. The ITP is really just a johnny come lately on the IT scene.  The MCSE is still more worth it than the ITP stuff nowadays.</p>
<p>Personally, I did both programs &#8212; the MCITP is a breeze once you pass the MCSE stuff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sudarshan Lohar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudarshan Lohar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All,

Thank you so much for the information provided...
but can you please let me know if i need to have MCTS / MCITP Certification, i already need to be MCSA Certification holder.
Waiting for your reply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for the information provided&#8230;<br />
but can you please let me know if i need to have MCTS / MCITP Certification, i already need to be MCSA Certification holder.<br />
Waiting for your reply</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Nieto III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan Nieto III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto! I just finished my MCSE and I believe this is true in many organizations today. I dont believe its a waste of time to pursue your MCSE vs. MCITP. It will be around for a while. Although, it is still a great ideal to upgrade to MCITP afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto! I just finished my MCSE and I believe this is true in many organizations today. I dont believe its a waste of time to pursue your MCSE vs. MCITP. It will be around for a while. Although, it is still a great ideal to upgrade to MCITP afterwards.</p>
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